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#1 Wednesday June 29th 2005 1:12:25 pm

BlueBandit
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Blue law alive and well

I've been working around the clock for a week to make some of my less than savory websites not be in violation of the vague, shortsighted, and overreaching DOJ 2257 regulations that went into effect on June 23rd. There is a temporary injunction for members of a group called the free speech coalition, but the rest of us could face 5 year prison sentence if we are charged and convicted with non compliance.

I know many of you have children, and while the new regulations appear to be in the best interest children and at a cursory glance supported by the general public, they are really just political grandstanding that will do nothing to solve the problem child pornography. They will however, place a great deal of potential harm to adults of free will.

(1) The sick people who create and distribute CP do not follow existing laws and generally do not use websites as a means of distribution.

(2) The regulations are vague. If someone here were to post an image in this forum deemed explicit by the vague definitions and I personally didn't have all the proper documentation, this would put me as the webmaster in violation of the laws. Penalties of 5 years in prison, plus having the the honorary title of "convicted sex offender" to my name.

(3) Content producers have already been required, with good reason, to maintain the existing documents for over 10 years. Requiring "secondary producers" (read: webmasters, surfers, anyone posting a picture on the internet) is redundant and vague. This is akin to requiring car dealerships to keep and analyze all technical and engineering specs of every car they sell and then holding them responsible for faulty manufacturing just in case Ford installed another exploding gas tank.

(4) Requiring content producers to provide a model's complete identification documents to secondary producers is dangerous. Anyone scraping together 20 bucks to buy a set of content would then have a models birth name, home address,driver's license number, etc. Stalkers rejoice.

(5) A majority of people who purchase porn are from the US. Since these laws only apply to US Citizens and content hosted on servers in the US, you will see a larger number of porn sites coming from foreign countries. Essentially, another US industry will be outsourced.

This comes from a biased source, but even ASACP agrees that the new regulations will do nothing to fight child pornography.
http://xbiz.com/news_piece.php?id=9271

While my side business may cast me in a negative light, it is nobody else's business. I only bring it up because I consider this a serious attack on all of our freedoms by an administration that claims to be defending it.
Criminalizing law abiding adults is not the way to fight crime.

Here are some other links on the issue.
http://www.fight2257.com/

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#2 Wednesday June 29th 2005 7:05:46 pm

toad
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Re: Blue law alive and well

Perhaps they should go review the effectiveness of gun control laws to predict how effective all of this will be.


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#3 Wednesday June 29th 2005 8:10:34 pm

BlueBandit
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Re: Blue law alive and well

Exactly.

I mainly think it was grandstanding though. "See? We are doing something about it!"

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#4 Wednesday June 29th 2005 9:57:31 pm

psydad
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From: Right here in Redding
Registered: Tuesday February 01st 2005
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Re: Blue law alive and well

A la the "war on drugs"
Silly, silly politicos.
I really want to go home now, this party is begining to SUCK!!! and I'm feeling ill.....  :x


If not me, who.
If not now, when.

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#5 Thursday June 30th 2005 5:41:16 pm

shelli
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Re: Blue law alive and well

:cry: kinda like me saying.. wait, someone make the world stop spinning, i want off at the next galaxy? :?

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#6 Thursday June 30th 2005 8:39:36 pm

psydad
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Re: Blue law alive and well

kinda, something like that


If not me, who.
If not now, when.

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#7 Friday July 01st 2005 1:00:46 pm

toad
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Re: Blue law alive and well

Damn there was a google ad here for $3.95 hosting that I wanted to check out but now it's been replaced with a "free sex offender list" ad.

I think that all adult sites should be www.whatever.adu.


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#8 Friday July 01st 2005 1:02:19 pm

toad
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Re: Blue law alive and well

LOL after I submitted my reply guess what ad I got.

come on



guess

yep

the $3.95 hosting plan:)


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#9 Friday July 01st 2005 6:02:06 pm

BlueBandit
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Re: Blue law alive and well

there are talks of a .xxx extension.

I think that is a good idea, as it would allow parental filters to quickly and easily identify what is adult content and what is not. I don't foresee it working all that well, and especially since the .com an .net domain holders will be quite reluctant to give up stuff they have been steadily branding over the past 10 years.

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#10 Friday July 01st 2005 6:50:58 pm

toad
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Re: Blue law alive and well

All the .com's and allready established could be grandfathered in as long as they provided redirect to their .xxx or .adu or .prn or .sex domain. Then filtering would still work.

My kids run into more adult content watching tv then they do surfing the internet, even still I'd like to see google come up with "google-kids".


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#11 Thursday August 18th 2005 10:49:07 pm

toad
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Re: Blue law alive and well

Approval of .xxx domain delayed

A virtual red light district would be one hell of alot better then the way it is now.

They really ought to look at what's been going on at newsgroups.


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#12 Friday October 21st 2005 2:04:09 pm

outlawmarine
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From: Shasta,
Registered: Thursday September 22nd 2005
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Re: Blue law alive and well

thank the heavens we have our government, with out that who would screw up everything :oops: , i think i see a satelite hanging over my house now :shock: , i am sure big brother is near by...........hey you over there :? ........... yea you with the fancy suit sitting in that new sedan with the engine running for 3 hours with the 5000.$ night vision goggles still on your head and the 25000$ laptop........ yea you why don't you go bother someone else like in the middle east..............................


guess i get carried away sometimes, roll             its the lack of drugs wink

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